Inverted Podcast #27 – How the World of Authentication Is Changing

Authentication is moving beyond passwords, and passkeys are becoming a product and regulatory priority. In Inverted Podcast #27, Jeroen Kemperman and Dario Salice talk with Vincent Delitz, co-founder of Corbado, about passwordless login in practice, user adoption, and what changes when AI agents start acting on behalf of people.

Drawing on real deployments, they cover enterprise versus consumer auth UX, business benefits beyond security, why organizations hesitate, and how digital credentials and agentic systems will stretch today’s models. Passwordless is not only a security upgrade: support load, phishing loss, and login conversion all move when the credential model changes. For inverted product teams, phishing-resistant authentication is a direct lever on account takeover risk and on the quiet days when nothing bad happens.

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About the guest

Vincent Delitz is co-founder of Corbado, a company focused on passkeys and passwordless authentication. He joins the hosts to share lessons from real-world deployments: driving adoption, improving login UX, and preparing identity systems for digital credentials and AI agents.

Key takeaways

  • Passkeys and phishing-resistant auth are shifting from experiment to roadmap priority.
  • Adoption is a UX and change-management problem as much as a cryptography problem.
  • Enterprise and consumer authentication constraints differ; one playbook rarely fits both.
  • Business benefits include lower support cost and fewer password-driven incidents, not only stronger crypto.
  • Hesitation often comes from legacy IdP debt, edge cases, and fear of breaking login.
  • Digital credentials and AI agents will require auth models that go beyond human password replacement.

Topics covered

  • What Corbado does and going passwordless in practice
  • Trends driving passkey adoption
  • User adoption and authentication UX
  • Enterprise versus consumer authentication
  • Business benefits beyond security
  • Why organizations hesitate to modernize login
  • Digital identity, credentials, and AI
  • Authentication in the age of agents

Chapters

00:10 Introduction & What Corbado Does
02:13 Going Passwordless in Practice
04:39 Trends Driving Passkey Adoption
08:01 User Adoption & Authentication UX
11:45 Enterprise vs Consumer Authentication
15:51 Business Benefits Beyond Security
18:29 Why Organizations Hesitate
24:40 Digital Identity, Credentials & AI
26:19 Authentication in the Age of Agents
38:12 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

FAQ

Who should watch this episode?

IAM engineers, authentication PMs, CISOs, banking and e-commerce platform owners, and teams evaluating passkeys or passwordless roadmaps. Also useful for leaders who need a clear case for investment beyond “passwords are bad.”

Why do organizations hesitate on passkeys?

Legacy identity stacks, account recovery edge cases, device coverage, and fear of breaking a high-traffic login path slow rollouts even when security benefits are clear. The episode walks through those blockers in practice.

How does this connect to inverted products?

Inverted products succeed when account takeover and phishing stay rare. Passkeys and phishing-resistant authentication change attacker economics at the login surface, which is core inverted product work.

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